Kopaonik snow cover [Arhiva] - Skijanje.rs

Cafu

28.11.2006, 20:56

Hi everbody,

Is there anybody out there in Kopaonik who can tell me what the snow cover is like please?

I have tried to check the webcam for the snow conditions but by the time I get home from work it's dark in Serbia so I can't see the image on the webcam.

Thanks for your help:ok:

Mikri

28.11.2006, 22:03

There was 30cm of snow a week ago, so i guess it can only be more than 30cm at this moment.Dont worry there is always enough snow on Kopaonik for skiing, particulary in january.

zloglasni

28.11.2006, 22:09

unfortunatly 0cm

barrcode

28.11.2006, 22:09

Hi Cafu,

Very warm (for the end of november) in Serbia these days, and it doesn't look good about the snow cover in the next 2 weeks:
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/tenday/YIXX0024?from=36hr_topnav_business

barrcode

Cafu

28.11.2006, 22:35

Aaahhh, no snow :sm008:

Hopefully there will be loads of it by January :sm017:

no_snow_in_swindon

29.11.2006, 09:33

Hi Cafu,

This is an image taken from the webcam this morning.

http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2307/fotowt8.jpg

When there's some snowfall i'll post back another for you to see.

Cafu

29.11.2006, 22:01

No Snow in Swindon, thanks for the image, a lot less white than I was hoping for but there's nearly 6 weeks until I go so it should (hopefully) look very different by then.

Cheers

Stevs

29.11.2006, 22:56

No Snow in Swindon, thanks for the image, a lot less white than I was hoping for but there's nearly 6 weeks until I go so it should (hopefully) look very different by then.

Cheers

http://www.infokop.net/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=8781

Photos (24, 25 and 26 november)...

Cafu

30.11.2006, 18:35

Stevs,

Thanks very much for the photo update, nice to see there is some snow in places.

Cheers:ok:

-JC-

01.12.2006, 16:55

Couple of questions for the locals:

Whats the snow coverage like mid-late january (I'm flying on the 21st) should I expect over 100cm's?

When do the national holidays end?

Cafu

01.12.2006, 19:48

I don't want to worry anybody but this 10 day forecast for Kopaonik doesn't look too promising. www.weather.co.uk (http://www.weather.co.uk)

Unless of course you want to sunbathe :)

Mikri

01.12.2006, 22:12

It should be more than 100cm's, national holidays end at 15 january or something like that, but they are definately over before you come here :) Still there will be a lot of people i think.

barrcode

04.12.2006, 08:08

it's coming : http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/tenday/YIXX0024?from=36hr_topnav_business

Cafu

04.12.2006, 19:31

Good stuff, that's what we all want to see plenty of white stuff!!

My missus was planning for us to spend a week in the bar the way it was looking :cug:

Stani

04.12.2006, 22:44

hy there!

Could you tell me something about the snowconditions at the beginning of March? Is there still powder or even more spring-like conditions? With spring-like conditions I mean,that firm in the morning, softening to corn snow, then possibly slush, or sg like this
Or we'll find mid winter with waistdeep freshies,:) ?

thank in advance

-JC-

05.12.2006, 15:20

http://weather.msn.com/tenday.aspx?wealocations=wc:YIXX0024

for a less optimistic outlook :sm008:

bendavies6

05.12.2006, 19:18

Hi everyone

Man i hope the snow comes cos im hopefully goin skiing here around christmas time. Neone got any more updates on the snow or how gd the resort is?

Cheers

Cafu

05.12.2006, 21:25

Hi all,

I'm still not confident that the snows are going to come in time for my holiday.

So far this has to be my favourite weather link:

http://weather.aol.com/main.adp?location=YIXX0024

Some of the other sites show sunny skies for 7-10 days, I hope they are wrong and the above link is right. I'm getting very worried that my skiing holiday will become a hiking holiday.

Fingers crossed everybody - good luck :ok:

Cafu

05.12.2006, 21:28

I also like this link:

http://www.madeinserbia.net/Weather/Kopaonik.html

Please be right and stay like that until the end of January!!

Stani

05.12.2006, 22:39

^^so the min. temps are quite nice, they're enough low to make some man-made snow if the mother nature doesn't bring some freshies...

btw, also in the Alps is the snowcover really sh**t, it's a crap seasonstart :/

Cafu

06.12.2006, 18:11

Hey Stani,

Do they have snow blowing machines in Kop then? I tried to find out if there were any but had no luck.

Thanks

Stani

06.12.2006, 19:41

I'm not sure, but I think they have. I remember, that past season just saw some pics with snowguns at Kopaonik. Maybe the locals have more infos..

NSboarder

06.12.2006, 19:46

I am sorry because I have to disappoint you-there are no any "snowguns" (if that is the word for it).
we all hope there will be some next ski season, but not this year.

Stevs

07.12.2006, 16:01

Weather and Forecast for 10 days:

http://www.eng.infokop.net/index.php?option=com_eweather&Itemid=289

Cafu

07.12.2006, 19:56

Hey Stevs,

Thanks very much for the update, I hope the forecasted snow turns out to be a good dump.

Next time you go up the mountains in Kop please can you send a prayer for me that it snows a lot between now and January ;)

Thanks, take it easy :ok:

-JC-

08.12.2006, 10:34

Does anyone know how the serbian weather works (which direction does the snow come from)?

I'm starting to get a little nervous, the forecasts seem to have huge variations between them... some show warm sunny days, others show the odd snowshower, while others are forecasting rain.

This time last year Kop looked very different :sm008:

no_snow_in_swindon

08.12.2006, 10:46

-JC-

08.12.2006, 14:55

Im feeling the same as you mate.

At least the beer will be cheap!!!it'll take some premium strength vodka to drown my sorrows if the snow doesn't arrive.

haha what happened to your estimated 5ft of snow? ;)

Cafu

08.12.2006, 22:54

It will snow, it's got to, it's got to, I can't buy new skis and end up hiring a mountain bike for a week!!

Hopefully the 100mph winds we've got coming over the weeked will blow some snow over to Serbia (Kop in particular).

If it's green at Christmas then I will really be worried.

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cafu

10.12.2006, 13:33

I hope the snows come this week, the forecasted fall today doesn't look like it's going to happen :sm008:

-JC-

10.12.2006, 13:42

I hope the snows come this week, the forecasted fall today doesn't look like it's going to happen :sm008: the forecasted snow may be at the top of the mountain... but a 1cm dusting at the top isn't going to be enough :(

the temprature seems to be dropping but its still falling as rain :(

my guess is that tonight we'll see a little snow, tomorrow will see a bit of sleet and then we'll see some more sleet at the end of the week... I think we'll see our first real snow next week, and a nice dump the week after to give us the base layer....

haha I hope as I don't think they have mountain biking in kop ;)

Cafu

10.12.2006, 19:23

It's alright for you JC, I think you go out there after us, we're Jan 14th so that base layer needs to form pretty quickly.

Maybe I'm panicking a bit better too much snow than too little:)

-JC-

10.12.2006, 21:59

It's alright for you JC, I think you go out there after us, we're Jan 14th so that base layer needs to form pretty quickly.

Maybe I'm panicking a bit better too much snow than too little:) haha I was going to book the 14th, but changed to 21st at the last minute as I got last minute nerves and thought there might not be any snow.... am I glad for that now ;)

NSboarder

10.12.2006, 22:06

guys, don't be so nervous!
from the time of Adam and Eva there is snow every winter on Kopaonik, so it will be the same this year!
just make sure that you are in good condition, because you will have 7 completely exhausting days on snow :)
see ya on kop

no_snow_in_swindon

10.12.2006, 22:22

21st for me too!!! Cant wait!

Cafu

10.12.2006, 22:55

JC!!!!! I thought you were an OK guy, now you kick a man while he's down, where's your Christmas spirit? :)

NSIS don't you go rubbing salt in the wounds!!

Take it easy fellas

Cafu

10.12.2006, 22:56

NSBoarder I hope your predictions are correct, I am looking forward to an exhausting weeks skiing, bring on the snow:ok:

-JC-

11.12.2006, 08:24

haha ns we're british, pessimism is our national past-time ;)

no snow last night... I'll be watching the cam like a hawk today.

-JC-

11.12.2006, 08:26

looks like back of the week and begining of next week see's the first real dump :eek: :ok:

no_snow_in_swindon

11.12.2006, 11:13

It looks very dull on the webcam now.

Hopefully there's snow in them clouds!!!

-JC-

11.12.2006, 13:34

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It looks very dull on the webcam now.

Hopefully there's snow in them clouds!!!Theres snow on the ground!

I was close to asking my rabbi to say a snow prayer ;)

PatMan

11.12.2006, 16:11

`Theres snow on the ground!

I was close to asking my rabbi to say a snow prayer ;)

Woo-Hoo....... see, the snow-dance DOES work!!

Mikri

11.12.2006, 18:58

Its snowing today on Kopaonik.

Cafu

11.12.2006, 19:08

Hooray, well done mother nature, keep that snow coming :sm017:

To

Cafu

11.12.2006, 19:08

Hooray, well done mother nature, keep that snow coming :sm017:

To all

Cafu

11.12.2006, 19:09

Hooray, well done mother nature, keep that snow coming :sm017:

To all of you who've done a snow dance :yay:

Keep dancing people, keep dancing :sm019:

NSboarder

11.12.2006, 23:17

haha, I can see you are pretty happy now, well you have reason :)
I told you not to worry, there will be snow, and I am telling you again.
now only 7 cm, tommorow more.
cheers

no_snow_in_swindon

12.12.2006, 07:29

This is what we like to see!!! :-)

http://www.infokop.net/myphpfiles/webcam.jpg

-JC-

12.12.2006, 11:45

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/jc_newcastle/webcam.jpg

incase the snow melts I'm posting this to keep my spirrits up :sm017:

now we need the permafrost :cool:

NSboarder

12.12.2006, 12:57

[quote=-JC-]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/jc_newcastle/webcam.jpg

incase the snow melts I'm posting this to keep my spirrits up :sm017: [/qoute]

haha funny :)
I hope you will like your staying on kop as much to come here next year too.
all the best

Cafu

12.12.2006, 19:34

Let's hope the snow keeps coming, the forecast looks to be getting milder over the next 5 days which won't be good.

We need a few days good snow fall and then for the temperatures to stay low, hopefully this snow will stay and form the base layer.

-JC-

13.12.2006, 08:37

loving the XL webcam :sm011:

miles_davis

13.12.2006, 10:54

-JC-

13.12.2006, 12:21

Have a peek at www.serbiaski.com (http://www.serbiaski.com) if you want to compare current snow conditions in regional ski resorts (Serbia, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Greece).. a full scale disaster coming for skiers near by, due to a serious lack of snow
;(
However, Kopaonik is pretty much safe - we dont need a huge snow there in order to keep the skis from scratching the ground..cheers for the link... next week looks like it'll bring a little more snow... still no real signs of any large dumps though :(

stole this image from someone on snowheads.... early january last year:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/jc_newcastle/KIF_1005.jpg

makes you sick :glavaozid

no_snow_in_swindon

13.12.2006, 23:17

cheers for the link... next week looks like it'll bring a little more snow... still no real signs of any large dumps though :(

stole this image from someone on snowheads.... early january last year:

makes you sick :glavaozid

Dont worry. we'll be ok by the 21st! Not sure about the week before though!

Sorry Cafu. Couldnt resist. Im sure it'll be fine! :yay:

Cafu

14.12.2006, 20:25

:) You're so funny - NOT.

4 weeks to go, my missus is going to ban me from looking on here (she can't stand my fretting). I can't help myself though I need to know that snow is there!!!

stedlocks

15.12.2006, 10:19

no_snow_in_swindon

15.12.2006, 10:41

hi all!!

3 of us are hoping to book today to stay at the konaci from the 14th of jan.....

can we get those snow dances going again:sm021:

i love the look of the resort, but can anyone tell me how long the transfer is from the airport? and also how long the flight is?

ive been looking though, and i know its gonna dump soon!!!!

great forum guys, and please keep updating this thread if it snows more!!!

cheers,Pat

The flights about 3 hours and then the same again for the transfer i believe.

Have a great time and please dont scrape all the snow off the pistes for those of us going on the 21st! :ok:

stedlocks

15.12.2006, 11:12

:)

there will be loads..........i can feel it in my bones!!

it gets like that when you get older:sm022:

Cafu

15.12.2006, 18:11

Hey Stedlocks,

We're off out there on the 14th too, where are you flying from, we're Gatwick to Nis and then a 2 hr 45 min transfer, staying at Club A.

I agree, the resort looks great, and with a bit of luck it will be a whole lot whiter by the time Jan 14 comes around.

Roll on skiing time :ski:

stedlocks

15.12.2006, 18:58

hopefully on the 14th as well...........not booked it today yet, Gatwick to nis as well, staying at the konaci(?) apts.............

and its got to be boarding mate:sm004:

should be booking over the weekend , if we can all get together and agree on something for once!!!

scootsman1

16.12.2006, 15:00

Hi Cafu and Stedlocks, looks as though there could be a meet here! :dziveli:

We (3 lads) are travelling at the same time and from Gatwick. Not too worried about the snow as there are a few weeks yet to go.:)

Hope to meet up then:ok:

Cafu

16.12.2006, 16:46

Sounds good to me, there's 6 of us going 4 adults 2 kids but all 4 adults like a bevvie or 3. bring on the snow and ale :cug:

Forecast looks good for next week, hopefully this forecast will come good, a good dump (snow that is) looks to be on it's way :sm017:

stedlocks

17.12.2006, 03:03

sounds like a plan!!:cug:

Cafu

17.12.2006, 19:27

Wow, the forecast is looking good for this week, on www.snow-forecast.com (http://www.snow-forecast.com) it shows 33 cm of snow falling on Tuesday (hope it's right and that theres plenty more over the next few weeks).

I can't wait to get on the slopes of Kop :ski: I've been checking Stevs photos of last season and the resort looks great :ok: .

Does anybody know if the season has officially started yet?

kop

17.12.2006, 19:32

We hope that ski season will be start during next week, but just hope... :dontknow:
Where are you from ? :)

Cafu

17.12.2006, 20:05

Hi Kop,

I'm from a placed called Lincoln in England but I have lived on this board for the last 4 weeks (or so my wife keeps telling me :) ).

We have no artificial ski slopes near us so I haven't had my skis on since last year, I'm really looking forward to getting locked in and getting down the slopes - although probably on my bum ;)

sarie

17.12.2006, 20:20

is there anybody who know are there any chance for skiing between 22. and 19. dec????

stedlocks

17.12.2006, 21:51

we should be booking this evening:sm021:

we are from near stansted airport............

kop

17.12.2006, 22:04

Hi Cafu !

I think that you choose very good place for skiing- Kopaonik !
I hope that you will love it ! This year there are 2 new four-seat chairlifts, and this is first year that all slopes (except one) will work !!! :sm021:
Now there is little problem with snow, but it will be snowing all next week, so i think that everything will be O.K. :ski:
When you will come to Kopaonik ?

Cafu

17.12.2006, 22:07

We are coming to Kop on 14th January so hopefully lots of snow will have fallen by then.

Cafu

17.12.2006, 22:13

Hey Kop,

I have just noticed your age, for somebody of 14 your English is superb, much better than my Serbian.:)

Thanks for all the information on Kop too, very useful:ok:

kop

17.12.2006, 22:14

Yes, 100% ! (snow) :)

Did you see Kopaonik ski map ?

Cafu

17.12.2006, 22:19

Hi, yes I've seen the Kop map, I have been looking at the length and difficulty levels of all the runs as I am only a beginner:ski:

kop

17.12.2006, 22:22

Here you can see all information about slopes:

http://www.tckopaonik.com/sr/images/mapa_kop.jpg

There is much easy (blue) slopes !!!:)

Hay ! Visit

http://www.eng.infokop.net/ !!! There is news about Kopaonik !!! On your left you can see slopes description on english ! (start with "suncana dolina" !

ski dude

17.12.2006, 22:33

no much,many easy slopes mate;)

SnowPloughPrincess

18.12.2006, 10:02

I am coming to Kopaonik with my BF 21st Jan. Currently doing the snow dance xD

If nothing falls I look forward to hiking with some of you!!!

no_snow_in_swindon

18.12.2006, 10:08

I am coming to Kopaonik with my BF 21st Jan. Currently doing the snow dance xD

If nothing falls I look forward to hiking with some of you!!!

Thats three (groups) of us from this thread going on the 21st now.

Dont worry, this weeks forecast looks as though it'll get things back to where they should be.

I see we had some overnight and those clouds are very dark at the moment!

http://www.infokop.net/myphpfiles/webcam.jpg

SnowPloughPrincess

18.12.2006, 10:30

yeah the reports look good! If it could just snow for say the next 3 1/2 weeks I think I'll be happy!!!

I just need enough to cushion my landings xD

-JC-

18.12.2006, 14:15

Thats three (groups) of us from this thread going on the 21st now.

Dont worry, this weeks forecast looks as though it'll get things back to where they should be.

I see we had some overnight and those clouds are very dark at the moment! The next 3 days look like our only chance of a large dump before christmas (some of the forecasters are predicting rain and sleet... they need to be wrong).

I'll be watching the cameras like a hawk.

Looks like its dumping in Jahorina which must be good omen :ok:

SnowPloughPrincess

18.12.2006, 15:44

To think I was excited about possibly being able to ski to door, now I'll just be excited if I am able to ski at all!!

-JC-

18.12.2006, 15:58

To think I was excited about possibly being able to ski to door, now I'll just be excited if I am able to ski at all!!no_snow_in_swindon and I have been fretting about the snow conditions for the last few months.... it didn't seem fair that you could just join the forum before a predicted dump without the pre-flight nerves ;)

Kopaonik (stolen from snowheads), January 1990:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/jc_newcastle/File0323_Large_.jpg

On a lighter note this is a ski slope not too far from Kopaonik at similar altitude:

http://slika.go2jahorina.com/jahorina640.jpeg

SnowPloughPrincess

18.12.2006, 16:26

-JC-

18.12.2006, 16:32

Ha ha I have been reading the forum for a while but decided to get in on the act and make myself known, especially seeing as if there is no snow we will all be in the bars getting rather slaughtered xD

Can we walk to the other slope if necessary!!?? I'm not too nervous as we have another month to go and a lot can happen in that! It will just really suck cos I have saved for this and it will be my last skiing trip for a while cos I need to buy a house!

Our holiday is in Mother Nature's hands lolby region I mean bosnia... you'll need some sturdy boots to walk that far ;)

I'm sure there'll be at least a metre of snow because I've bought a new board, new boots & new bindings... I know g-d wouldn't want me to scrape my lovely new gear on rocks :cool:

SnowPloughPrincess

18.12.2006, 17:18

LOL

You could look to attaching some wheels on the bottom! I've got hire gear so you'll be seeing me skiing over the rocks!

stedlocks

18.12.2006, 20:08

IT MUST SNOW................

sorry for shouting:sm004:

my mate is having jitters about going now.....please no more negative posts:eek::sm021:

Roastbeef

18.12.2006, 20:17

By the looks of the reports it's snowing, and it's going to keep snowing all week! Nice as I'll be on the slopes on Christmas Day.

Cafu

18.12.2006, 20:42

Save some for me :ski:

kop

18.12.2006, 20:53

Hi cafu did you look the site that i gave you adress yesterday ? :)

Cafu

18.12.2006, 21:34

Hi there Kop,

Yes thanks I had a look at both of the links, both very good. All we need now is lots of snow on those runs :)

no_snow_in_swindon

18.12.2006, 23:38

Looking at the webcam now, it seems that its either.....
a) Very foggy
or
b) Its snowing very hard!!!!

no_snow_in_swindon

19.12.2006, 07:26

Looking at the webcam now, it seems that its either.....
a) Very foggy
or
b) Its snowing very hard!!!!

Looking at it now, it seems that it was just foggy then! :sm008:

-JC-

19.12.2006, 08:58

Looking at it now, it seems that it was just foggy then! :sm008: there was a light dusting last night but my backyard has more snow.

should snow for 2 days now though.... :dziveli:

SnowPloughPrincess

19.12.2006, 09:39

woohooo 3cm! Not quite enough for a decent snow ball fight lol 34 days til I go skiing. I'm panicing a bit early maybe lol

Today and tomorrow look like the major snow days. I hope Serbia gets burried in it xD

Timbo

19.12.2006, 10:01

I went to Kopaonik last January, went on the 21st January for a week, going again this year on the 14th. The snow cover last year was excellent, well over a metre in places, only saw one patch of grass on the slopes and that was under a conifer tree. The first couple of days last year were really cold, not just cold, but really cold. Even the ski instructors didn't enjoy going out, one of the coldest weeks on record. An Irish chap who got lost almost died one night!
The first couple of weeks in January are really cold and the slopes are quite busy as it's holiday season in Serbia. It gets a little quieter at the end of January and still nowhere near as busy as France or Switzerland.
I've got loads of photos from last year, plenty of snow. There's also quite a bit forecast for the next ten days. We'vre kept in touch with our ski chappy from last year and he said there's always plenty of snow in January and into February.

SnowPloughPrincess

19.12.2006, 10:23

well it looks like it is snowing a bit there right now. Every little helps xD

kop

19.12.2006, 11:56

In Belgrade is snowing very hard right now, so i think that is snowing on Kopaonik too ! :sm021:

D.I.M.

19.12.2006, 12:28

well it looks like it is snowing a bit there right now. Every little helps xD
No. Only 3cm of snow. Look live web cam, or http://www.wunderground.com/global/stations/13378.html

-JC-

19.12.2006, 13:12

seems like its snowing everywhere in the world bar kopaonik.... whats going on? :confused:

SnowPloughPrincess

19.12.2006, 13:33

D.I.M.

19.12.2006, 13:36

seems like its snowing everywhere in the world bar kopaonik.... whats going on? :confused:

13.00
Observed at:

Kopaonik, Serbia and Montenegro
Elevation:1711 m
http://icons-aa.wunderground.com/graphics/conds/snow.GIF0 °C
Light Snow
Humidity:99%Dew Point:0 °C Wind:14 km/h / from the SSE
Pressure: hPa (Steady) Visibility:0.5 kilometers

-JC-

19.12.2006, 13:49

I am looking at the live webcam and it will say 3cm until it's updated at about 14:00.

Wish the webcam was higher up, how the car park looks doesn't bother me LOL

Some sites are predicting about 30cm of snow falling over the next week and then others are predicting just fog. Really frustrating. All the sites I look at are associated with buying holidays there so they wouldn't have a hidden interest in predicting snow that isn't coming. Blah, some consensus would be nice xDforecasting isn't an exact science, theres bound to be variation.

what I can't understand is with such a high percentage of precipitation, low tempratures and snow in all the surrounding regions.... how is kopaonik still not snowing?!?!?

Matrix

19.12.2006, 14:09

Just called hotel I am going on Thursday 21st.
They said:"snow falling down, but occasionally ... seems to be 10 cm this evening... call us tomorrow afternoon...have a pleasant stay in our hotel!!!??".
You can try on www.hotels.co.yu (http://www.hotels.co.yu) to get some usefull hotel sights including phone no's to get instant information 'bout weather ;)
Seems they're speaking English :)
Info including latest pictures next week.

milos79

19.12.2006, 15:17

It started 15mins ago. Seems it is snowing with an average intensity considering difference between two refreshes of webcam. Hope it'll keep that way.

SnowPloughPrincess

19.12.2006, 15:29

Came back from lunch and I'm quite happy to see fresh snow lying on the road!

WAAAHOOOO

-JC-

19.12.2006, 15:40

Came back from lunch and I'm quite happy to see fresh snow lying on the road!

WAAAHOOOO its getting dark, I wanted to watch everything turn white :(

kop

19.12.2006, 15:41

Snowable clouds are not above Kopaonik ! Because i dont know to put picture here :glavaozid i will upload it on:

http://www.uploading.com/files/9DR6ZZYM/europesat_720x486.jpg.html

-JC-

19.12.2006, 16:04

Snowable clouds are not above Kopaonik ! Because i dont know to put picture here :glavaozid i will upload it on:

http://www.uploading.com/files/9DR6ZZYM/europesat_720x486.jpg.html How depressing :glavaozid

Looks like there'll be a little snow overnight, but nothing like the blizzards other places have had .

SnowPloughPrincess

19.12.2006, 16:37

all weather reports I've (I@ve) seen said good snow until Thurs morning. If it's not there by Thurs could be hiking!

Maybe other parts of the world could send some over, one resort I saw in USA or Canada had 278cm. Drools....

-JC-

19.12.2006, 16:42

all weather reports I've seen said good snow until Thurs morning. If it's not there by Thurs could be hiking!

Maybe other parts of the world could send some over, one resort I saw in USA or Canada had 278cm. Drools.... there'll be plenty of snow by january the 21st.... I just feel sorry for the poor buggers that went for christmas ;)

SnowPloughPrincess

19.12.2006, 17:45

LMAO

I know I shouldn't laugh but.....

-JC-

19.12.2006, 18:28

LMAO

I know I shouldn't laugh but..... we'll make a snowman in their honour :ski:

Cafu

19.12.2006, 19:43

Well, with 27 days to go I've finally given in and conceded that I can't influence the weather.:sm008:

Mother nature is going to do what she wants when she wants but I have every faith in the good old girl putting things right soon. :sm017:

Cafu

19.12.2006, 21:12

From 4cm snow to 10cm in an hour seems good going to me, let's hope :sm017: this keeps up for a good few days and the pattern extends over the next few weeks:ski:

kop

19.12.2006, 21:20

Great ! 10cm !

Check out this Cafu:

Snowable clouds are not above Kopaonik ! Because i dont know to put picture here :glavaozid i will upload it on:

http://www.uploading.com/files/9DR6Z...0x486.jpg.html (http://www.uploading.com/files/9DR6ZZYM/europesat_720x486.jpg.html)

Ski Serbia

19.12.2006, 22:06

@kop
http://imageshack.us/
http://xs.to/
http://www.imagevenue.com/host.php
itd

http://xs310.xs.to/xs310/06512/europesat_720x486.jpg (http://xs.to)

Cafu

19.12.2006, 23:00

Great, nice to see some cold bands moving there way over.:)

KOP_MANIA

20.12.2006, 06:28

Brate ovo postao engleski forum

SnowPloughPrincess

20.12.2006, 09:33

w0000000t 16 cm it's looking so much better! Comparing the 8am pictures from yesterday and today I am much happier! Keep snowing, you can do it!!!

-JC-

20.12.2006, 10:20

I'll be happy when that cars burried ;)

what a nice waking up present though :sm011:

no_snow_in_swindon

20.12.2006, 11:12

Finally! The day we've all been waiting for!!!

Bring on the 21st of January! http://hfboards.com/images/smilies/frosty.gif

http://hfboards.com/images/smilies/snow.gif http://hfboards.com/images/smilies/snow.gif http://hfboards.com/images/smilies/snow.gif http://hfboards.com/images/smilies/snow.gif

-JC-

20.12.2006, 11:28

Finally! The day we've all been waiting for!!!

Bring on the 21st of January! http://hfboards.com/images/smilies/frosty.gif

http://hfboards.com/images/smilies/snow.gif http://hfboards.com/images/smilies/snow.gif It should last this time round :D that's if those pesky christmas skiiers don't brush all the lovely white snow off the pistes ;)

no_snow_in_swindon

20.12.2006, 11:39

It should last this time round :D that's if those pesky christmas skiiers don't brush all the lovely white snow off the pistes ;)

You staying over at Gatwick the night before???

We've booked into here..... http://www.flightparks.com/Default.asp?Page=24

Price includes parking and transfers to and from the terminal

-JC-

20.12.2006, 11:51

You staying over at Gatwick the night before???

We've booked into here..... http://www.flightparks.com/Default.asp?Page=24

Price includes parking and transfers to and from the terminal yeah can't remember where we're staying I'll let you know when I get in from work... although after looking at your hotel I may be tempted to swap, it looks nicer than any of the hotels in kop ;)

where's everyone staying in kop? we're at the grand.

no_snow_in_swindon

20.12.2006, 11:58

yeah can't remember where we're staying I'll let you know when I get in from work... although after looking at your hotel I may be tempted to swap, it looks nicer than any of the hotels in kop ;)

where's everyone staying in kop? we're at the grand.

Show off!!!

We're at Club A

-JC-

20.12.2006, 12:34

Show off!!!

We're at Club Ahaha, you haven't seen the gatwick hotel we're in... there were more expensive hostels ;)

CrazyKong

20.12.2006, 12:59

Show off!!!

We're at Club A

Don't expect to much from "Club A"...it was very good hotel bak at 80's though.

I reckon there were no refurbishing since then...

My opinion is that "Grand" is much better value for same money.

SnowPloughPrincess

20.12.2006, 13:02

I'll be staying in the Grand :D So excited now!!!

no_snow_in_swindon

20.12.2006, 13:08

The clouds on the webcam are getting very dark now! Lots more snow by the end of the day hopefully!

Anybody else looking at the webcam every 5 minutes??

-JC-

20.12.2006, 13:18

The clouds on the webcam are getting very dark now! Lots more snow by the end of the day hopefully!

Anybody else looking at the webcam every 5 minutes??I'm embarrassed to say its even more frequent than every 5 minutes (and I take web captures - to remind me on gloomy days)

here's my favourite capture of today ;)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/jc_newcastle/today.jpg

no_snow_in_swindon

20.12.2006, 13:21

I'm embarrassed to say its even more frequent than every 5 minutes (and I take web captures - to remind me on gloomy days)

here's my favourite capture of today ;)

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/jc_newcastle/today.jpg

Get off the snow!!! You'll ruin it!!

Nobody should be aloud to walk on it til the 21st Of January! :)

-JC-

20.12.2006, 13:27

Get off the snow!!! You'll ruin it!!

Nobody should be aloud to walk on it til the 21st Of January! :) in fairness it doesn't really matter whether they walk on it or not as its going to snow for 20 days and 20 nights from january the the first ;)

waist deep powder :sm011:

kop

20.12.2006, 13:43

Yeah !!! 16cm ! :sm021: :sm021: :sm021:

SnowPloughPrincess

20.12.2006, 13:46

I am glued to this website and make everyone at work watch with me xD

My new addiction :D Hey, it passes the time waiting for the next shot to be updated LOL

no_snow_in_swindon

20.12.2006, 13:48

I am glued to this website and make everyone at work watch with me xD

My new addiction :D Hey, it passes the time waiting for the next shot to be updated LOL

This thread has also now turned into the largest thread on this site!!! lol

:yay:

norry

20.12.2006, 14:08

norry

20.12.2006, 14:13

Some other links i've found useful.

Slope Map (http://www.tckopaonik.com/sr/images/mapa_kop.jpg)
BBC Holiday Program that featured the resort (http://www.bbc.co.uk/holiday/destinations/serbia_ski/)
BBC Holiday Program on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Z1llYbBP0&eurl=)
Tourist Info (http://www.kopaonik.net/eng/_html/home.php)

no_snow_in_swindon

20.12.2006, 14:15

After watching the webcams and this thread like a madman i thought i'd say to all those going. I'll be one of the early lot going on the 7th Jan for a week, staying in Hotel A.

It will be my first attempt at boarding and my first holiday in Serbia.

I've got two links to the same webcam which appear to update at different intervals.

Link 1 (http://www.infokop.net/myphpfiles/webcam.jpg) Link 2 (http://www.jatkopaonik.com/kamera.html)

Cheers Norry,

Have a great holiday and please let us know what you think when you get back as i'll be in the Club A a week after you've arrived back.

Would be good to hear what you think before we go.

norry

20.12.2006, 14:24

Cheers Norry,

Have a great holiday and please let us know what you think when you get back as i'll be in the Club A a week after you've arrived back.

Would be good to hear what you think before we go.

cheers, I've been really worried about the snow but can't do much about it so might as well enjoy myself no matter what.

If i'm super efficient when i get back on the 15th i'll upload my photos and comments ect and post a link here on this thread.

The_Monkey

20.12.2006, 14:25

prettydia011

20.12.2006, 15:47

Hi everyone!
I'll be there from 30th December for my first snowboarding holiday and I hope it just keeps snowing as it is now and more :ok: - can't wait to go!!!! And my whole office knows the depth of snow cover on Kopaonik - I have kept them updated on an hourly basis for the past week - they probably can't wait for me to leave :sm022:

SnowPloughPrincess

20.12.2006, 15:50

Looks like we'll be taking over the resort for the 21st then!!

I look forward to seeing your pictures Norry, try to get into the grand and take some pictures there :p I'm sure they wont notice!

-JC-

20.12.2006, 16:25

Afternoon All,

I too have booked myself in for the week commencing the 21st. Having taken the gamble on an unknown resort and booked the holiday last night with 3cm of snow on the ground imagine my delight when I checked this morning to find 16cm! And with more showers forecast over the next 10 days!

I'm not ashamed to say I danced round the office.

My only concern is the size of the resort, I'm sure that 30 runs can keep me busy for a week though.

Tom 30 runs will keep me more than busy... I'm more concerned about the snow levels :glavaozid

although it looks like the first week of january could bring the pow :sm017:

http://www.arl.noaa.gov/ready-bin/animation.pl?id=GFS&mdl=grads/gfslr/europe/panel2&file=anim

no_snow_in_swindon

20.12.2006, 16:31

-JC-

20.12.2006, 16:46

After skiing in Italy and Switzerland im thinking that i might become bored after a few days of skiing here. (But it's my lads first trip so we thought it would be good for him and the wife isn't into anything two steep).

Because of this, im really considering having snowboarding lessons.

Should I? We normally ski on blades. come over to the darkside & ditch the sticks ;)

We're a first time skiier and a not so competant boarder, so I'm think the terrain will compliment our abilities perfectly - from the sounds of things any competant skiier could get bored.

no_snow_in_swindon

20.12.2006, 16:50

come over to the darkside & ditch the sticks ;)

We're a first time skiier and a not so competant boarder, so I'm think the terrain will compliment our abilities perfectly - from the sounds of things any competant skiier could get bored.

Already ditched the sticks!! Dont use them with blades! lol

Is it the Mrs whose a first time skier? Is she having lessons?

kop

20.12.2006, 17:27

Wow ! Whatch the car !I think tere is more snow than 16cm !!!

Temperature for this week will be not over 0 !!! :) :)

stedlocks

20.12.2006, 17:36

we have'nt booked yet, due to my mate needing to do a house m,ove for his mum.............

but its styill on for the 14th for us:ok:

keep on with the snow dances, everyone!!

kop

20.12.2006, 17:42

In november on Kopaonik was 42 cm snow and all was melted !!!!!! :sm022: :sm022: :sm022:

no_snow_in_swindon

21.12.2006, 08:31

Nice to see a bit more snow overnight.

Keep it coming!!! :yay:

SnowPloughPrincess

21.12.2006, 09:54

I recommend trying snow boarding to anyone, even if you hate it at least you end up a bit more understanding about what boarders go through xD You have to be so much fitter, continually undoing the straps on one foot totally knackered me out!!!! Not to mention trying to use a rope lift (what is the technical term for one of those) was impossible, especially if you board goofy!! However I liked the fact you could use throwing yourself on the floor as an emergency break, much easier to do than on skies!

-JC-

21.12.2006, 10:31

In november on Kopaonik was 42 cm snow and all was melted !!!!!! :sm022: :sm022: :sm022: but the tempratures look low for at least 9 days.... then we're into january.

I'd have liked to of seen 40cm going into January, but 20cm should be enough to act as the base for the 100cm that'll drop before the 21st ;)

now_snow, yeah she's the skiier - she tried snowboarding last time but didn't like walking round in big boots dragging a board behind her... i figure that if shes on ski's she can drag her self along.

snowploughprincess the throwing yourself over to stop loses its appeal when you pick up any speed ;)

SnowPloughPrincess

21.12.2006, 11:03

LOL JC xD Wasn't much danger of me getting faster than a snail the slope they had us on rofl I think I'd be a bit scared to go down a proper slope, it is a lot harder than it looks!

I tried it because I have an injury to my left ankle which means my right skies fairly nicely but my left goes at a weird angle. If you see anyone skiing like that give them a wave, it's probably me xD

Roastbeef

21.12.2006, 16:54

So I arrive this Sunday, shall I bring my shiny new board, my crappy old board, or hire when I arrive?

oooh, it's such a dilema!

prettydia011

21.12.2006, 17:31

So I arrive this Sunday, shall I bring my shiny new board, my crappy old board, or hire when I arrive?

oooh, it's such a dilema!

Same here - I am woried that my new one will suffer because there is not enough snow depth.

And, with this fog it will be good if there are flights - I am flying from Heathrow to Belgrade on Saturday and I am getting a bit worried now!

Roastbeef

21.12.2006, 17:48

Yes, the fog in the UK is looking like a problem at the moment especially at Heathrow. We are flying from Gatwick to Nils at 6am on Xmas Eve, the fog is rumoured to stay around for a few days so we could both be stranded at the airport!

Fingers crossed, we all make it there and there's enough snow to have a bit of fun at least.

kop

21.12.2006, 20:39

Now there is 19cm !!!!:) :) :) But i think that there will not be many snow in next few days :sm008: The place on picture is Belgrade, so compare it with Kopaonik ! In Belgrade is nearly more snow than on Kopaonik !!!

http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/2329/dscn0219fu4.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dscn0219fu4.jpg)

SnowPloughPrincess

22.12.2006, 10:00

I'm (I@m) really annoyed I can't see the depth there anymore! Why did they take it away!!!

no_snow_in_swindon

22.12.2006, 10:18

I'm really annoyed I can't see the depth there anymore! Why did they take it away!!!

This Kop website is still showing it.
It also has a rather clever section that shows the runs and lifts. Just click on the name of one of the runs.

http://www.kopaonik-genex.com/eng/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=89

Stevs

22.12.2006, 10:24

This Kop website is still showing it.
It also has a rather clever section that shows the runs and lifts. Just click on the name of one of the runs.

http://www.kopaonik-genex.com/eng/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=90&Itemid=89

Site of the Serbian Republic Agnecy for Weather do not work last two days. This is the reason why infokop do not have weather information.

no_snow_in_swindon

22.12.2006, 10:34

Site of the Serbian Republic Agnecy for Weather do not work last two days. This is the reason why infokop do not have weather information.

Oh yeah. Didnt notice the date at the top there.

Any trips planned for you anytime soon Stevs?

-JC-

22.12.2006, 10:34

Site of the Serbian Republic Agnecy for Weather do not work last two days. This is the reason why infokop do not have weather information.excellent job on the site stevs.... its been like a bible for me the last few weeks :yay:

-JC-

22.12.2006, 11:21

Can anyone read weather maps?

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/jc_newcastle/26th850temp.gif

That looks like a very appealling cold front that could effect kop.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/jc_newcastle/26th850mb.gif

On the same day there could also be enough humidity to fall as snow... does this mean that from the 25th to the 29th kop could expect a little snow?

I hope so as it looks like it could warm up a little from the 30th :glavaozid

my gut tells me we're not going to get any heavy snow till halfway into january (although I'm still holding my breath for a big dump on the 3rd/4th :ok: )

what a terrible pre-season we've had.

Cafu

22.12.2006, 11:49

SnowPloughPrincess

22.12.2006, 12:06

oo thanks for the info on the other site. Gives me more to hit refresh continuously when I'm at work xD

I look forward to seeing a nice big snow update when they come back to work!! I hope they do get a nice fall the first week of jan, that will be more than ideal! As long as what we have doesn't disappear before then LOL

-JC-

22.12.2006, 12:09

If that's what's going to happen on the 26th and a good dump comes along that would be the best birthday present I could ask for at the minute.

I keep kidding myself that the top of the mountain is going to be very different but the web site shows no runs open :glavaozidI wouldn't expect much snow - there isn't enough moisture forecasted.

haha the forecast has just changed as well, looks like the cold/wet front now skips round kopaonik on the 3rd/4th... I give up on watching the weather maps.

I'm just going to pray.

Cafu

22.12.2006, 12:17

You and me both mate :sm017:

Cafu

22.12.2006, 12:27

Need more snow :sm017:
Need more snow :sm017:
Need more snow :sm017:
Need more snow :sm017:
Need more snow :sm017:

Cafu

22.12.2006, 12:27

Snow dance snow dance snow dance :sm019:
Snow dance snow dance snow dance :sm019:
Snow dance snow dance snow dance :sm019:
Snow dance snow dance snow dance :sm019:
Snow dance snow dance snow dance :sm019:

Cafu

22.12.2006, 12:28

Can you tell I'm hungover?:couto:

Timbo

22.12.2006, 12:46

We went to Kop last year, bucket loads of snow, but very, very cold!
It did warm up at the end of the week, we went 21st Jan for a week. Going a week earlier this year because of kids exams!
Children had never skiied before - when we got back we saw the programme on the Beeb. The children's ski instructor is the girl who taught our girls - they really enjoyed it and by the end of the week (only 6 & 8) they were skiing down some of the easier slopes with us!
There's plenty of slopes to keep everyone busy and for any doubters I've got some mobile phone clips showing the snow levels for last year, not sure how to down load them mind!!! The resort is better for beginners and intermediate skiiers... my son was a bit bored with the black runs after a couple of days, mind you he's 13 and if it doesn't go click and involve a computer screen then it's boring anyway!

Roastbeef

22.12.2006, 12:52

It looks like there's no point in even taking our boards for next week if there are no lifts open.
I'll have to take a tennis racket instead.

D.I.M.

22.12.2006, 12:56

It looks like there's no point in even taking our boards for next week if there are no lifts open.
I'll have to take a tennis racket instead.
....and basket bal

-JC-

22.12.2006, 12:59

Can you tell I'm hungover?:couto:hahaha.... I've had no alcohol and I'm in exactly the same boat.

I've done several snow dances at my desk (disguised as christmas dances... my colleagues would think me strange if they thought I was snow dancing)

Roastbeef, you have my sympathy - you might want to try heading over the border to bosnia they have 70cm of snow :eek:

Roastbeef

22.12.2006, 13:02

How far is the border?
And how do I get there!

-JC-

22.12.2006, 13:31

How far is the border?
And how do I get there! absolutely no idea, it looks about 100km on the map... but i have no idea how long it would take or how you'd get there.

its meant to be much more challenging than kop.

Timbo

22.12.2006, 13:37

To have really good snow the cars on that webcam need to be covered! If they're not covered by the 16th January have a look at it on the 17th January at about 10am - you'll see me bearing my arse to all of those disappointed people, anxiously watching it for snow!

If you can see my arse, cancel your holiday and get yourself off to Canada. If you can't see my arse that's because it's either too foggy or I've managed to find that hire car I've just enquired about my my arse will be with me heading North West to the Alps!

Here's to keeping a warm arse!
:sm022:

absolutely no idea, it looks about 100km on the map... but i have no idea how long it would take or how you'd get there.

its meant to be much more challenging than kop.

Timbo

22.12.2006, 13:44

I've just had an email from the chappy who was our instructor last year. He lives in Belgrade, this is what he's just said about the weather...
As far as snow is concerned, there is still no need to worry, but the truth is - you never know for sure. The mountain is unpredictable, and if the snow falls for a couple of days (two or three) there could be plenty of snow. Usually, this time of year there is not enough snow, but we are always expecting it around New Year. My friends - the instructors are going to the mountain this weekend so we will have constant reports on snow coverage before you arrive :). I hope you won't be disappointed.
So hopefully snow should be good... but just to be on the safeside I'm still looking for that hire car!

Cafu

22.12.2006, 13:57

Timbo, thanks for the update.

JC, Roastbeef - It's good to know i'm not the only one constantly watching the camera, my missus has given me so much grief this last week or so - think she's feeling neglected - if she was white and cold she would be getting shed loads of attention :)

Here we all are praying for snow and not even giving a though to what father Christmas is going to bring us. I might send a new letter asking for lots of snow in Kop throughout the whole of January.

Keep up the snow dances people, I give you my word I will do the same at this end (as soon as the hangover clears up and I can go 10 mins without feeling the need to boff).

kop

22.12.2006, 14:06

Weather say that there will be light snow on monday !!!:) :) :)

SnowPloughPrincess

22.12.2006, 14:52

lol I will be looking on the camera at 10am on the 17th Jan! Don't let me down Timbo :p Hopefully you will be burried in snow though!

I've told myself not to panic until 15th January (going 21st). However I am relying on you guys that are going earlier to let us know what we're supposed to do if there is no snow >.<

-JC-

23.12.2006, 10:38

lol I will be looking on the camera at 10am on the 17th Jan! Don't let me down Timbo :p Hopefully you will be burried in snow though! strange girl.... the last thing I want to see on the kopaonik camera is timbo's arse - so I'll look an hour later ;)

31st looks set to see about 2/3cm of snow.

25/26th will maybe see 2cm.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/325146559_5e0b8659e7.jpg

someones holiday pic from the 17th of december... kopaonik

no_snow_in_swindon

23.12.2006, 21:22

strange girl.... the last thing I want to see on the kopaonik camera is timbo's arse - so I'll look an hour later ;)

31st looks set to see about 2/3cm of snow.

25/26th will maybe see 2cm.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/141/325146559_5e0b8659e7.jpg

someones holiday pic from the 17th of december... kopaonik

Good pic. Is that 17th December this year? Any other pics JC?

-JC-

24.12.2006, 17:23

Good pic. Is that 17th December this year? Any other pics JC?good:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/135/325152159_0439f3c175.jpg

bad:
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/137/325150601_49818b80e6.jpg

Yeah they're this year.

The snow isn't looking good for Europe until way into January; the high looks like its not only hanging on but getting hotter! Theres a strong possibility that the 20 cm's on the ground today will of all melted by the time the fresh snow arrives.

Tomorrow and Tuesday should see a little snow, with another dusting on the 31st... Then on the 3rd/4th of January onwards (depending on what the high does) I reckon we could see upto 10cm of snow.

But I wouldn't expect any heavy snowfall untill well into January, possibly february :couto:

Matrix

24.12.2006, 21:52

Last evening I returned from Kopaonik ( if you didn't know the right name of this beautiful mountain is Kopanik without letter o between a and n :) I read somewhere).
The fact is that I have skiing yesterday:), but...
It was opened just one line (Mali Karaman) with 9,5 minutes ride up (in full season not more 4-4,5 minutes need); :sm008:
Snow: just enough for good ride, on few spots you can see the ground:sm008:
On two lines nearby Pancic snow guns done good job:)
Think JC is right :"But I wouldn't expect any heavy snowfall untill well into January, possibly february"
But you can expect good fun and lot of entertainment there.
Wellcome.
More on www.skimanijaci.com (http://www.skimanijaci.com)

Timbo

25.12.2006, 15:49

Hi, I think we've all been watching the webcam on the Jat appartments. I don't know if anyone else has found this website, but there seems to be a live webcam on it... it shows the area in front of the main ski school, by the basketball pitches, and at the bottom of the main new lift up to Kopanik mountain... you can actually see people on skis!
http://www.kopaonik-genex.com/eng/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=209&Itemid=192

Timbo

25.12.2006, 15:51

Yep, there's definitely people skiing... mind you alot of black on the pavements and the roof buildings... sad to say there was none last year!
The website gives the username of kop and password of kop... Don't spend too long squinting at the website you'll melt what little snow there is!

-JC-

26.12.2006, 10:51

Nice find Timbo... that's a new addition to the genex site :dziveli:

Nice to see that despite the rapidly depleting snow levels, runs are still open.

Matrix, how many snow canons did you count? I was under the impression there weren't any... You just made me a very happy man.

The GFS looks terrible today, the tempratures look set to rise again and any chance of snow before the 10th seems a distant dream :( Anything that would of fallen as snow has either disappeared or looks set to drop as sleet or rain.

If you're going before the 21st I would be on my knees praying daily as the anticyclone over europe is refusing to budge :awm2:

Cafu

26.12.2006, 11:00

-JC-

26.12.2006, 12:21

Had the big do we go don't we go debate yesterday??? We are due out on the 14th but there seems no point in going if there's going to be little or no skiing, also the kids will be bored shedless, there's only so much you can do on a mud hill.

The spending money would need to be trebled to pay for daytime activities, it might just be best to cancel get 30% of my cash back and go later in the year. I'm depressed, was really looking forward to skiing on Kop it looked great.:confused: when's the deadline for your cancel date?

A lot can happen in 3 weeks, weather forecasts aren't an exact science and are often way out... The problem for snow conditions has been an anticyclone over europe (which can probably hold out for another week), if you can wait a week I'd watch what happens between the 2nd & 4th as this will determine what weather Kop should expect.

If you've booked with Thomson/Crystal you might want to give them a ring as until they've issued the tickets you can move your holiday date (sometimes for as little as the administration fees... a lot less harsh than losing 70% of your money).

Cafu

26.12.2006, 12:40

Alrite JC hope you had a good Xmas, pitty Santa didn't bring us 6 weeks positive snow forecast.

We are booked with Thomsons and last week we asked if we could put the dates back to Feb and were told we would lose 70% as we are within 8 weeks of departure, I though that was a bit steep myself??

Not sure what to do now, this morning we've been discussing the option of trying to transfer to Andorra or somewhere like that, they have the snow but the down side is it's characterless, whereas Kop looks full of tradition and charm.

I expect that admin fees will be extortionate if we did decide to change. The missus suggested binning the snow and transfering to Tenerife/Gran Canaria but I need to ski :ski: I desperately need my fix of adrenaline!!!

The long range forecasts look crap, it's the same all over Eastern Europe, the runs aren't open in Bulgaria yet either.

Who knows.................I can't bl**dy decide.............s*d it I'm off down the pub:cug:

scootsman1

26.12.2006, 12:54

Cafu IMHO I think what JC is saying would be the best thing to do. Conditions can change dramatically, even over night. Weather forcasting is not an exact science, even with todays technology! Wait till the week before and make decisions then.

Here's the small print from Thompson if you are travelling with them (or Crystal) which gives details of cancellation refunds etc. - Basically not much I'm afaraid.

http://www.thomsonski.co.uk/termsandconditions.html

Personally I would go for it anyway, (as I am anyway- like you guys on 14th). I have skied for over 35 years (more than 70 weeks) and have not had some snow to play on. Even if just a couple of runs are open there is still lots of fun to be had, games to play and technique to work on. I know that sounds far from ideal but you guys have worked hard to pay for your holiday and will have some very dissappointed nippers to deal with if you cancel. Believe you me, I will be extreemly dissapointed if there is absolutly no snow.

I hope you do decide to go, even more that we get a dump the week we go or better still when we are there, and we meet up in Kop for a bevvie or some!

Cafu

26.12.2006, 13:03

Scootsman, not sure what line of work you're in but I would guess in it being a diplomat of some sort :) LOL, that sounds like the voice of reason to me and having put it like that I suppose my glass could be half full and not half empty.

I would guess that we will still be going so a pre flight bevvie at Gatwick could be on the cards :cug: .

I will just have to keep praying for snow in the meantime.

Take it easy:ok:

Timbo

26.12.2006, 13:18

Morning, a friend of mine's son has just come back from Chamonix - one broken arm and concussion! The snow ran out but he kept going... Dad was supposed to be flying out today with his lad to Chamonix but has had to cancel... he wants to know about Kop now.

I said to bring his lad on the 14th because the snow might have run out there as well and he can break his other arm!

What about if we all go outside and blow as hard as we can in the direction of the anticyclone and see if we can move it, praying doesn't seem to be working. The live webcam at Kop that I've been looking at has changed angle from last night, it's looking towards the bottom of slope 14 I think... it's too far in the distance to see if anyone is skiing but there seems to be a few people around the bottom of the slope!

http://www.kopaonik-genex.com/eng/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=209&Itemid=192

:glavaozid

-JC-

26.12.2006, 14:36

If you choose tenerife over kopaonik you're insane (kids or no kids) ;)

After reading thomsons T&C it looks like if you cancel between today and the 6th you're going to lose 90% of your money... As weather is unpredictable I'd take my chance with kop... Pretty much every forecaster has predicted snow from mid-January onwards.

There's a little hope for the second week of January... I wouldn't cancel anything just yet.

Timbo, there's been people skiing all morning :ok:

Does anyone know how hard it is to get to http://www.go2jahorina.com/ from kop?

miles_davis

26.12.2006, 15:05

Does anyone know how hard it is to get to http://www.go2jahorina.com/ from kop?

Around 350 km of very bad road, approximately 5-6 hours in winter conditions. Forget it. Ask your agent about Brezovica (190 km) or even Stara Planina (220 km)..

-JC-

27.12.2006, 11:17

Around 350 km of very bad road, approximately 5-6 hours in winter conditions. Forget it. Ask your agent about Brezovica (190 km) or even Stara Planina (220 km).. cheers miles, if theres no snow at least I can now go hunt my own :)

Forecast today is much of the same, however if the temprature stays low enough we could see some snow on the 2nd of January... we deserve it.

Cafu

27.12.2006, 12:58

JC - I've stopped tripping over my bottom lip now so will defo be heading out on 14th. I'm sure all will be well by then :ok: , I've put my negativity yesterday down to a hangover (AGAIN), why oh why do we keep doing this to ourselves every Christmas :dziveli: .

Roll on 14th Jan.............................

stedlocks

27.12.2006, 16:47

we hav'nt booked yet cause of the snow thing............i thought it was too good to be true:dontknow:

we will probably do a last minute thing to somewhere else........but i want to go to kop now!!

no_snow_in_swindon

28.12.2006, 00:09

SnowPloughPrincess

28.12.2006, 09:30

I'm still excited!

donthinktwice

28.12.2006, 13:25

Hi fellow Kopites!

Hope everyone had a fantatic Christmas and that Santa brought everything that everyone wanted! Shame he didnt manage to bring snow to Serbia. Never mind. Im sure it'll all be fine in the end.

HI happy people,
Santa hasn't been in Serbia yet. :)
We celebrate Cristmas on 7.01., so there's still some hope.

I have seen many times 30cm or more snow for 24h, even overnight up there, and considering insecurity of long-term (10+) days weather predictions....still no reason to be (very) upset :yay:

-JC-

28.12.2006, 13:33

Things are starting to look a little better, There is a chance of the UK getting a cold northerly in a weeks time which could be strong enough to push the low pressure into Southern Europe... With a bit of luck this could mean snow... But more importantly it could solve the anticyclone problem that is rapidly turning kopaonik green.

Hopefully this will mean those going on the 14th will be greeted by much colder conditions.

For us lot on the 21st the anticyclone should be long gone and hopefully we'll be making snow angels in 70cm's of snow (haha if only) :cool:

-JC-

28.12.2006, 13:35

HI happy people,
Santa hasn't been in Serbia yet. :)
We celebrate Cristmas on 7.01., so there's still some hope.

I have seen many times 30cm or more snow for 24h, even overnight up there, and considering insecurity of long-term (10+) days weather predictions....still no reason to be (very) upset :yay: You serbs have to be the most optimistic folk I have ever met.

still I'll trust your judgement and expect at least 30cm of snow on the 21st ;)

jimbobthevet

28.12.2006, 17:49

No actually I went third week in Jan 2006, and we had one night where it must have dumped 30cm at least overnight. the other thing to remember is that Kop is the only high point around so All the snow in the region gets blown up it. there were whole trees buried in snow drifts... I can rub it in though as I'm going on the 14th.. At least the beer is excellent and cheap.

donthinktwice

29.12.2006, 09:25

mmmm beer...
I have heard before beer is top recomandation for Serbia in England. Actually beer is excelent, and costs about 1.5-2euro in cafe, or 1\2euro in shop.
I'm usually there on end of january or begining of february, and can't remember any problems with snow conditions!

SnowPloughPrincess

29.12.2006, 14:13

bah beer is disgusting! What are the prices like for the local spirits? If the snow fall stays low I'll be needing some!

prettydia011

29.12.2006, 14:31

bah beer is disgusting! What are the prices like for the local spirits? If the snow fall stays low I'll be needing some!

Hi there I've been in Belgrade for a week now, here local spirit - rakija (rah-kee-yah) is 120 dinars (one pound) tops in a pub, but Kop should be slightly more expensive.

I would always go for beer me - Tuborg or Jelen or Lav :cug:

By the way I've just seen couple of snowflakes landing in fornt of me here in Belgrade - so hopefuly there will be some up there tomorrow. Can't wait to go ;)

donthinktwice

29.12.2006, 17:35

Hi there I've been in Belgrade for a week now, here local spirit - rakija (rah-kee-yah) is 120 dinars (one pound) tops in a pub, but Kop should be slightly more expensive.

I would always go for beer me - Tuborg or Jelen or Lav :cug:

By the way I've just seen couple of snowflakes landing in fornt of me here in Belgrade - so hopefuly there will be some up there tomorrow. Can't wait to go ;)

mmm rakija
local brand is a plum brandy=rakija (shljivovica-if anyone can spell it- please...). Of course it's also made of grape, apricot (especially good, and slightly more expensive)..., but plums are national fruit. In winter, what you'll probablly like the most is hot, cooked rakija - local speciality. There's also a cooked vine-my recommendation. Prices are ~ 1-1.5 pound.

Are we going offtopic?

-JC-

29.12.2006, 19:44

Those going on the 14th... you may get a little pow :dziveli:

Theres a good chance that fresh snow will fall around the day you arrive (with smaller snow showers up until the day you arrive)

Hope is not lost yet.

no_snow_in_swindon

29.12.2006, 23:29

Just tried looking at the webcam and i cant see a thing (Yes i know its dark, but you can normally see something)

Is it snowing really hard or is it foggy?

Also, the other webcam (the live one) hasn't been working for me. Same for everyone else?

Cafu

30.12.2006, 10:42

Just fog AGAIN then!!!

This is a nightmare, where's the chuffing snow!!!

Cafu

30.12.2006, 10:43

Just fog AGAIN then!!!

This is a nightmare, where's the chuffing snow!!! If I can ski when I go it will be a bonus :dontknow:

-JC-

30.12.2006, 10:47

The fancy webcam has stopped working for me as well... doesn't look like much snow fell last night.

However, I reckon we could see a light snow shower/s on every day (bar a couple) for the next two weeks, unfortunatly in most cases it wont be anything to get excited about (but at least we're on the right track)... I do think theres the chance that a couple of days could see between 5-10cm's fall.

Second half of January looks even better :ok:

Blader_Vedran

30.12.2006, 15:07

I have just looked on the jatkopaonik.com webcam and it says at the top there is 16cm of snow.. Im going to Kopaonik tommorrow for new year so hopefully there will be some snow to ski on. I read on a website that they are expecting 4cm snowfall on monday night so i suppose thats a start. Whats this live webcam site? and does anyone have any information on how much more snow is going to fall in the next week? Thanks,

Vedran

-JC-

30.12.2006, 15:57

http://www.eng.infokop.net/

click on the link under the webcam on the left & type "kop" for the username and password.

There's a few chances for snow next week, so keep the faith ;)

-JC-

31.12.2006, 11:38

I reckon the first week of January could see between 15 & 40cm of snow (depending on whether it falls as snow, sleet or rain)... but then it looks like a return to the mild :(

Wish I'd booked for February :awm2:

We can see what slopes are open now (good job stevs), but judging from the swarms of people walking past the webcam all the snow will of been brushed off the slopes by the time we arrive.

Cafu

31.12.2006, 13:46

-JC-

31.12.2006, 14:11

Hey JC, I would just put it down to absolutely shite luck!! Any other year the snow would have been falling for 2 months by now, this is one of those freak once a decade incidents which is sent to p*** us all off.

I blame the school run mums in their 4 x 4's for polluting the environment ;)I wouldn't mind but I almost transfered my kopaonik holiday (free of charge) to a high altitude resort.... guess which resorts are getting 1 metre of snow this week.

I decided to stick with serbia because i'm bored of the commercial nature of Alpine resorts, I wanted to try a resort with character... Whether I'd of traded that character for snow is another matter ;)

Next week certainly does look better, at least 20cm should fall... As for the week after; who knows you may even get a little pow on the 13th as a welcome to kop present:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y130/jc_newcastle/animcafu.gif

I should really learn to look at the glass as half full :dziveli:

-JC-

01.01.2007, 10:23

the real time webcams working again...

the conditions dont look good today... lots of greenery.

I think we could see the biggest dump we've had yet between the 19th & 22nd.

Bata Bane

01.01.2007, 11:28

New snow cover will be after January 10.:dontknow:

Roastbeef

01.01.2007, 11:49

We got back from Kop yesterday, so if anyone has any questions about the resort then let me know. We snowboarded every day between 25th - 30th, and although it wasn't an epic we had alot of fun on the snow that was there... 5 - 20cm. There were only 2 lifts open, the 2 big 4 seaters but they didn't charge us for a lift pass!

We would have been more than happy to stay another week!

Timbo

01.01.2007, 12:52

-JC-

01.01.2007, 13:31

-JC-

01.01.2007, 13:42

I've just had an email come through from Snowforecast.com - a 3 day forecast issued at 12am on 31st December. It forecasts light snow on Tuesday morning of 5cm and heavey snow at night of 15cms...

Bring on the metre and a half which we had last year! :yay:Snowforecast predicts around 29cm for the next week :ski: (my 15-40 wasn't far off)

Bata Bane, I'd guess its going to be much later than the 10th.... if we're lucky the new base will come in the thrid/fourth week of January... The second week of January could have less snowfall than the first.

Mikri, you promised me over 100cm's of snow!:awm2:

Roastbeef

01.01.2007, 17:22

what sort of apreski was there?

is it worth risking my new board on those serbian rocks or would the hire boards do the job?

The Apreski looked pretty good from what I saw of it, there are plenty of bars to try out. I thought "Hawa Krya" next to the Burton Shop and "Exit" were the best. There was a disco as well in the main complex, but it wasn't open when we were there. Or it might have been open but I was too knackered to be out late.

I took my board that had only seen 3 days of use and it is now badly in need of a service. If there is some more snow forecast then you should be ok. It kind of depends on how you ride and where you go.
The hire boards looked crappy, but I wasn't paying much attention to be honest.

no_snow_in_swindon

01.01.2007, 21:30

Cheers for the comments RoastBeef.

Where did you stay? We're going to Club A on the 21st.

Was there enough snow to do skidoo'ing? The Mrs saw it on the holiday programme and wants to do it again. (We did it in Cervinia a few years ago)

Bajastrasni

02.01.2007, 10:33

JC, where did you find that snowforecase info of 29cm? Thx.

-JC-

02.01.2007, 11:32

www.snow-forecast.com (http://www.snow-forecast.com)

althuogh they've reduced it to about 23cm, of which maybe 16cm would probably remain.

its now looking like we wont experience any heavy snow fall for upto 3 weeks... guess I'll be bringing my swimming trunks.

cheers for the posts roastbeef, guess I'll be drinking a lot more than I'll be riding this year ;)

norry

02.01.2007, 11:44

Blimey guys, have a heart for those of us going out this Sunday :sm004:

-JC-

02.01.2007, 11:48

Blimey guys, have a heart for those of us going out this Sunday :sm004:You could well have the best conditions of this month... fresh snow.

have a heart for us going out on the 21st it might of all melted

norry

02.01.2007, 11:57

You could well have the best conditions of this month... fresh snow.

have a heart for us going out on the 21st it might of all melted

Either way when i get back on Monday i'll upload some photos of the resort / hotel / snow situation to give you guys an idea of what to expect (for those that haven't been)

I'll be watching the webcams all week :)

Anyone here going this weekend? or is it all the 21st?

SnowPloughPrincess

02.01.2007, 12:03

hmm well it's looking a bit dubious for the skiing for any of us! I just hope the slopes they are currently resting they leave closed so those going out may have some kind of snow! The current runs must be getting worn!

I'm looking forward to the nice break and spending some time with my bf. The snow will be a bonus xD

Cafu

02.01.2007, 12:26

[quote=SnowPloughPrincess;17341]hmm well it's looking a bit dubious for the skiing for any of us! I just hope the slopes they are currently resting they leave closed so those going out may have some kind of snow! The current runs must be getting worn!]

That's what I've been thinking too, we don't go out until the 14th so by then I expect that it will be a case of skiing totally straight to get over all the ice which will have formed, no need to be practising my turns then :sm006:

norry

02.01.2007, 12:29

I'm looking forward to the nice break and spending some time with my bf. The snow will be a bonus xD

Exactly, after the last 3 weeks of madness i'm looking forward to a week off, either a bit of boarding or simply drinking beer in a cafe :sm004:

-JC-

02.01.2007, 12:29

i guess this all adds to the serbian experience... with the levels of ice and rocks i guess the blue runs will be turned into black runs ;)

kopaonik will make a man of me

SnowPloughPrincess

02.01.2007, 14:17

lol I have been known to break down and cry when I get to steep icey parts xD I hate the way one ski suddenly drops about 2 feet and the other stays nicely dug into the side. Instant splits xD

If you see a poor girl crying on the mountain side take heart and help her BF carry her down :D

roo

02.01.2007, 14:48

hello,
norry - i am going out on sunday. very scared about the snow situation and i'm not liking the fog that seems to have swamped kopaonik this morning....

norry

02.01.2007, 14:58

hello,
norry - i am going out on Sunday. very scared about the snow situation and I'm not liking the fog that seems to have swamped kopaonik this morning....

Nice one roo i was beginning to think i was the only one posting here that wasn't going on the 21st. Not looking forward to that early start on Sunday though!

roo

02.01.2007, 15:08

i know, 4.45 is not a time you should have to be anywhere. i will be bringing matchsticks for the eyelids and an IV drip of pure caffeine to the airport....still, at least the bus ride should be in the light, so we can see exactly how close we are to dropping off the edge of the mountain and plummeting to our deaths...should wake us up a bit....

norry

02.01.2007, 15:28

not that i'm obsessed or anything, but the live streaming webcam is suddenly showing snow a falling :)

linkage (http://www.kopaonik-genex.com/eng/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=209&Itemid=192)

kop/kop

roo

02.01.2007, 15:40

excellent. just has to keep up for a few hours/days....

SnowPloughPrincess

02.01.2007, 15:58

weeks!! Weeks would be nice xD

-JC-

02.01.2007, 16:29

that looks much deeper than the 4cm snow-forecast predicted... hopefully by tomorrow there'll be a nice 30cm base.
here's to 100cm of snow for the 21st :dziveli:

SnowPloughPrincess

02.01.2007, 17:06

Yeah the change on the static web cam was awesome :D From a completely clear road to semi buried looking cars and each time the tyre tracks were being filled! Please please let an unforeseen amount fall!!

jimbobthevet

02.01.2007, 17:17

Snow ho ho and a bottle of Rakija! :yay: :cug:

Cafu

02.01.2007, 17:54

Roo/Norry,

make sure you leave some snow for those of us going out on 14th, I don't want you 7th Jan'ers scraping all the lovely snow away. Fingers crossed for a continuous fall.

-JC-

02.01.2007, 18:15

cafu it looks pretty much continuous for this week then with a couple of light falls next week... so leave some snow for us poor buggers going out on the 21st ;)

i cant stop looking at the webcam, those trees look like they're drowning in snow:sm011:

no_snow_in_swindon

02.01.2007, 19:14

What a great sight to come home to!!! Thats made my day!!

If they have been "saving" the other slopes im sure it'll be for the Serbian holidays that start this week.

We were talking to the wifes Auntie last week (who used to be married to a Serbian) and apparently the Serbs celebrate Christmas on the 7th and New Year on the 14th!

So those going out over those dates should have a fun time!